Comments on: Urbex n00b may have cost us a site. http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/2008/07/urbex-n00b-may-have-cost-us-a-site/ Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:36:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Defqon http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/2008/07/urbex-n00b-may-have-cost-us-a-site/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Defqon Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:27:16 +0000 http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/?p=19#comment-45 S1zzler, I wouldn't say that this is about being a 'beginner'. You obviously have a sense of elitism that I do not posess. I wouldn't say my comment gives the 'hobby' a bad name, I would say that the negative press that Urbex receives without proper and just, justification is what gives Urban Exploration a bad name as opposed to comments that are aimed at one person only, and not an entire community. Am I pissed that a well known and documented site (and one that I personally believe to be one of the best in the central belt) 'may' get locked down? Yeah. But it's not that thats the problem, Law Hospital has more holes than a sieve, and regardless of what security measures are in place, we'll get through. What really annoys me is the inherent dis-regard to which he has shown all others with the same interests as him, even after the events and 'discussions' that he has witnessed. So S1zzler, I hope that this comment comes accross a tad more favourably to you than my previous post, but at the end of the day, we each have an opinion. And yours is shite. S1zzler, I wouldn’t say that this is about being a ‘beginner’. You obviously have a sense of elitism that I do not posess.

I wouldn’t say my comment gives the ‘hobby’ a bad name, I would say that the negative press that Urbex receives without proper and just, justification is what gives Urban Exploration a bad name as opposed to comments that are aimed at one person only, and not an entire community.

Am I pissed that a well known and documented site (and one that I personally believe to be one of the best in the central belt) ‘may’ get locked down? Yeah. But it’s not that thats the problem, Law Hospital has more holes than a sieve, and regardless of what security measures are in place, we’ll get through. What really annoys me is the inherent dis-regard to which he has shown all others with the same interests as him, even after the events and ‘discussions’ that he has witnessed.

So S1zzler, I hope that this comment comes accross a tad more favourably to you than my previous post, but at the end of the day, we each have an opinion. And yours is shite.

]]> By: Dystopia http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/2008/07/urbex-n00b-may-have-cost-us-a-site/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Dystopia Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:05:50 +0000 http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/?p=19#comment-44 I'm proud of the fact that I go exploring and most people know what I do for happy times. It's a part of me and who I am and well I can't forever stare at people blankly when they ask what I do given I don't go out drinking etc. However, I don't trust the press at the best of times so there's no danger of me running to the press and yapping. As I said to a guy I know in US, the media is like radiation: a little coverage can do some good in some cases in the same way that a little radiation can be used to kill a tumour. However, too much coverage can utterly destroy things a bit like landing a big nuke somewhere. A shit analogy but it amused my mate. =P A lot of people cannot resist fame and glory and I doubt this person was any different. He probably didn't think of the consequences or was genuinely unaware. I can't condone his actions one bit but he gave in to a classic human weakness. I'm as annoyed as anyone else that he has destroyed what may have become a potential playground for me and/or other urbexers but as he was so new to it all did he really know that he was causing any problems? I’m proud of the fact that I go exploring and most people know what I do for happy times. It’s a part of me and who I am and well I can’t forever stare at people blankly when they ask what I do given I don’t go out drinking etc.

However, I don’t trust the press at the best of times so there’s no danger of me running to the press and yapping. As I said to a guy I know in US, the media is like radiation: a little coverage can do some good in some cases in the same way that a little radiation can be used to kill a tumour. However, too much coverage can utterly destroy things a bit like landing a big nuke somewhere. A shit analogy but it amused my mate. =P

A lot of people cannot resist fame and glory and I doubt this person was any different. He probably didn’t think of the consequences or was genuinely unaware. I can’t condone his actions one bit but he gave in to a classic human weakness. I’m as annoyed as anyone else that he has destroyed what may have become a potential playground for me and/or other urbexers but as he was so new to it all did he really know that he was causing any problems?

]]> By: S1zzler http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/2008/07/urbex-n00b-may-have-cost-us-a-site/comment-page-1/#comment-43 S1zzler Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:33:20 +0000 http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/?p=19#comment-43 Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing and I'm sure that mushcan and Defcon were beginners at UrbEx at some stage. maybe if they offered something constructive instead of "playing with traffic" or "inhaling asbestos" then it may help some other poor soul being sold out by the media. TBH its comments like these that really give the hobby the worst name. Ok, so he may have been a tad misguided and naive but surely the stakes of the challenge have been upped for still gaining access without detection ... and who isn't up for a challenge ??? Isn’t hindsight a wonderful thing and I’m sure that mushcan and Defcon were beginners at UrbEx at some stage. maybe if they offered something constructive instead of “playing with traffic” or “inhaling asbestos” then it may help some other poor soul being sold out by the media. TBH its comments like these that really give the hobby the worst name. Ok, so he may have been a tad misguided and naive but surely the stakes of the challenge have been upped for still gaining access without detection … and who isn’t up for a challenge ???

]]> By: Defqon http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/2008/07/urbex-n00b-may-have-cost-us-a-site/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Defqon Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:33:25 +0000 http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/?p=19#comment-42 Shepy, you are completely right in waht you are saying. I hope this guy inhaled a fucking wad of asbestos in the place, see how long his 15minutes of fame lasts with asbestosis! Shepy, you are completely right in waht you are saying. I hope this guy inhaled a fucking wad of asbestos in the place, see how long his 15minutes of fame lasts with asbestosis!

]]> By: mushcan http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/2008/07/urbex-n00b-may-have-cost-us-a-site/comment-page-1/#comment-41 mushcan Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:06:37 +0000 http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/?p=19#comment-41 Just face it mate your a cunt at the end of the day taking all the glory and ruining it for other isnt what urbex is about and its wankers like you that put the rest of us off, running to the media like a fucking goon, go play in the traffic do us a favour Just face it mate your a cunt at the end of the day taking all the glory and ruining it for other isnt what urbex is about and its wankers like you that put the rest of us off, running to the media like a fucking goon, go play in the traffic do us a favour

]]> By: Gary http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/2008/07/urbex-n00b-may-have-cost-us-a-site/comment-page-1/#comment-40 Gary Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:03:08 +0000 http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/?p=19#comment-40 Sal, I didn't report the story to the press, I submitted my images to the photo gallery "Scotland in pictures" and at that point, it was too late. I had no idea there was a story in this. I can definately see why people are annoyed to be fair, however I did not deliberately create this media frenzy. One thing I should add, since this story broke, I have had a look at various posts on various Urbex forums. A lot of your peers openly admit to stealing confidential information, so your community cannot claim to be whiter than white. Gary. Sal,

I didn’t report the story to the press, I submitted my images to the photo gallery “Scotland in pictures” and at that point, it was too late. I had no idea there was a story in this.

I can definately see why people are annoyed to be fair, however I did not deliberately create this media frenzy.

One thing I should add, since this story broke, I have had a look at various posts on various Urbex forums. A lot of your peers openly admit to stealing confidential information, so your community cannot claim to be whiter than white.

Gary.

]]> By: Foxylady http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/2008/07/urbex-n00b-may-have-cost-us-a-site/comment-page-1/#comment-39 Foxylady Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:56:36 +0000 http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/?p=19#comment-39 It's so easy to be condemning and know exactly what someone should do after the fact...if only we should all be so perfect beforehand! Gary made a genuine mistake, although to be honest, I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. Many, many of us have talked to the press in one way or another, been interviewed or had our photos published in some way. Who's to say how it's going to turn out? In my case, it was an advantage, in other cases, who knows? I honestly don't think we should come over all high and mighty, just because of one outcome such as this. And it certainly isn't worth threatening the poor guy with or haranging him. That kind of behaviour is a much worse crime, imo. It’s so easy to be condemning and know exactly what someone should do after the fact…if only we should all be so perfect beforehand! Gary made a genuine mistake, although to be honest, I’m not sure what all the fuss is about. Many, many of us have talked to the press in one way or another, been interviewed or had our photos published in some way. Who’s to say how it’s going to turn out? In my case, it was an advantage, in other cases, who knows? I honestly don’t think we should come over all high and mighty, just because of one outcome such as this. And it certainly isn’t worth threatening the poor guy with or haranging him. That kind of behaviour is a much worse crime, imo.

]]> By: Smileysal http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/2008/07/urbex-n00b-may-have-cost-us-a-site/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Smileysal Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:53:00 +0000 http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/?p=19#comment-38 It is the NHS's reponsibility to remove all confidential files, patients records, x-rays, everything. It is up to you, to report it to the NHS, not the press. If they don't do anything, report it to them again, if they still don't do anything, then report both the files and the NHS to the Member of Parliament in charge, again, not to the press. If one section doesn't do anything, you continue to report it higher up the scale, until something is done about it, and all records etc removed. It is the NHS’s reponsibility to remove all confidential files, patients records, x-rays, everything. It is up to you, to report it to the NHS, not the press. If they don’t do anything, report it to them again, if they still don’t do anything, then report both the files and the NHS to the Member of Parliament in charge, again, not to the press. If one section doesn’t do anything, you continue to report it higher up the scale, until something is done about it, and all records etc removed.

]]> By: Smileysal http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/2008/07/urbex-n00b-may-have-cost-us-a-site/comment-page-1/#comment-37 Smileysal Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:50:23 +0000 http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/?p=19#comment-37 Gary, Can't you see why people are annoyed? Too many times we've been classed as breaking an entering, thieves, etc. We take only pictures, leave only footprints, we don't talk to to the press, they twist things and lie and turn them into something else, all of which aren't true. They are in it for they're own ends. To get more readers/viewers. Learn from your mistakes. Pretty simple really. :) Sal ps, Tresspass is a civil offence, not a criminal one. You can only be sued by the land owner, no one else. Security guards cannot make you delete your pictures, they can only ask you to leave the site. Gary,

Can’t you see why people are annoyed? Too many times we’ve been classed as breaking an entering, thieves, etc. We take only pictures, leave only footprints, we don’t talk to to the press, they twist things and lie and turn them into something else, all of which aren’t true. They are in it for they’re own ends. To get more readers/viewers.
Learn from your mistakes. Pretty simple really.
:) Sal

ps, Tresspass is a civil offence, not a criminal one. You can only be sued by the land owner, no one else. Security guards cannot make you delete your pictures, they can only ask you to leave the site.

]]> By: Gary http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/2008/07/urbex-n00b-may-have-cost-us-a-site/comment-page-1/#comment-36 Gary Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:48:34 +0000 http://www.shepy.co.uk/blog/?p=19#comment-36 And one last thing, I do fully plan to get into Urban Photography in a big way. I had a blast at law with other photographers with the same interest, and I already have 7 or 8 locations in the pipeline. I might not be in your club, but I sure hell won't shy away from trying to get the best photos I can, and I will continue to post them online, and share them with friends and family. I will NOT be submitting them to any news sites, personal details found or not. Guys, have you ever lost a wallet? Sucks ehh, that worry that people could use the info to your disadvantage. Same thing with medical records, if not worse. They should not be left for anyone to find. Gary. And one last thing, I do fully plan to get into Urban Photography in a big way. I had a blast at law with other photographers with the same interest, and I already have 7 or 8 locations in the pipeline. I might not be in your club, but I sure hell won’t shy away from trying to get the best photos I can, and I will continue to post them online, and share them with friends and family.

I will NOT be submitting them to any news sites, personal details found or not.

Guys, have you ever lost a wallet? Sucks ehh, that worry that people could use the info to your disadvantage. Same thing with medical records, if not worse. They should not be left for anyone to find.

Gary.

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